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Mailing lists

Introduction

A mailing list (as the term is used on these pages) is an email discussion group. A list server (which is a computer program on a host computer) will send the message it gets from one of the members to all people it has on it's mailing list (hence the name).
Mailing lists (as the term is used here) are comparable to newsgroups (on Usenet), but they work quite differently. Some people prefer the one and others the other often depending on what kind of access they have to the internet and how intensively and loyally they want the follow a certain subject. (Latest news (199905): Using www.deja.com/ you can now also access newsgroups as if they were mailing lists. Seems to work good.)
Generally someone asks a question or brings up a topic on a mailing list and then there will be 1 to 20 messages from people saying something more or less sensible about the subject. It's a great way to get help with technical problems and often you get suggestions that you would never have thought of. Generally people will answer beginners questions very friendly on these (technical) mailing lists because we all know how difficult it all is and we all had to learn sometime and generally spend a substantial part of our time learning more.
Well just try it out. Some people really wouldn't be able to work (and live) without their favorite mailing list(s).
When you're looking for a general mailing list, you can try the Chipdir Mailing List that is associated with this site. All questions and remarks (even slightly) related to chips are welcome.

Subscribe via button

I have added buttons to subscribe to most of the mailing lists.
Just enter your email address (and sometimes your real name) and press the button.
You can also unsubscribe via this page so don't forget to place a bookmark in your browser NOW!
Subscriptions are done via a forms handler in the Netherlands, which may be difficult to reach from time to time (In America: Try again late in the evening, generally try again when it's not 16..24 in Western Europe.)

Subscribe by hand

It's a great pity that there are so many differences between all these mailing list handlers!
But at the bottom are some tips about subscribing manually to mailing lists.

Netiquette

Most mailing lists (and individual receivers of your email) expect you to behave according to the 'netiquette rules' (Net etiquette rules). If you have't read them yet, my advice is to do so. They contain a lot of good tips. After you have read them you can decide to ignore some of them but when you haven't read them, experienced users will recognize you for what you are: A newbie and may ignore your messages:

catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html	This one is quite new and explains how to ask questions the smart way. Very read-worthy when you're new to mailing lists or newsgroups!
www.primenet.com/~vez/neti.html
www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html
www.fau.edu/netiquette/net/index.html
eleccomm.ieee.org/email-netiquette.shtml
www.in.on.ca/tutorial/netiquette.html
www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post	Top or bottom respond to messages?

fmf.fwn.rug.nl/~anton/topposting.html	Anton Smit: "Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting
members.home.net/krobb7/quoting.html	Ken Robbins - Quoting on Usenet
www.alt-html.org/index.html#usenet	Brucie's alt.html General Information
www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html	zen and the art of the internet (usenet section)
www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html	Jukka Korpela presents Tobias Brox's Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet
www.estreetjournal.com/cgi-local/dir/dir.cgi/Computers/Internet/Etiquette/	Netiquette links
www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/	"rules" for posting to usenet
www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html	Richard Kettlewell: Quoting Style
www.html-faq.com/faq.php?clue=topposting	alt.html FAQ* reference on posting methods
www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/	"How not to look like an idiot", What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"?
www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html	Netmeister: "How do I quote correctly in Usenet"
www.topfloor.com/pr/communities/ch3.htm	TopFloor Publishing: Online communities - Participating effectively
homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccaughan/g/remarks/uquote.html	G.McCaughan: The advantages of Usenet's quoting conventions
www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html	FAQ* of Proper Quoting
www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html	"Suggestions on how to post"
www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html	news.newusers.questions FAQ*

Mailing list categories

Mailing lists for:

The PIC from Microchip.
Other specific (families of) processors.
All kinds of other electronics subjects. (Continue on this page...)

Miscellaneous mailing lists

Altium Forums

forums.altium.com/

www.altium.com/forums/

Automation List

www.control.com/control_com/alist/

Mailing list for discussing PLC's etc. (Factory automation).

Chipdir ML

chipdir-l ML

Chipdir's chipdir-l ML

subscribe	chipdir-l-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
unsubscribe	chipdir-l-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
group owner	chipdir-l-owner@yahoogroups.com
owner	Chipdir
yahoo site	www.groups.yahoo.com/group/chipdir-l/
other site	www.chipdir.org/

Everything about chips and about the chip directory, no restrictions yet.
Usually a couple of messages per day.

Cross GCC ML

Cross compiler versions of the GNU C compiler.

name	CrossGCC
about	GNU C cross compiler, RTOS*'s, libs, home-brew, etc.
organization	Cygnus (Provides commercial support for the GNU tools)
site	www.objsw.com/CrossGCC/
archive	sources.redhat.com/ml/crossgcc/
archive	eli.elilabs.com/list-arcs.html
flow	A couple a day

Needs to be tested again

freescale_dev_tools ML

Freescale (Motorola)'s freescale_dev_tools ML

subscribe	freescale_dev_tools-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
unsubscribe	freescale_dev_tools-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
group owner	freescale_dev_tools-owner@yahoogroups.com
owner	Freescale (Motorola)
yahoo site	www.groups.yahoo.com/group/freescale_dev_tools/

Embedded Info Newsletter ML

Mostly about tools from AMC.

Embedded-Info is a free, monthly bulletin from Applied Microsystems Corporation for engineers working on the design, debug and test of embedded systems. Embedded-Info will focus on new technologies and industry trends in embedded systems development.

name	embedded-info
listserver	majordomo@amc.com
body	subscribe embedded-info
about	tools from AMC
maintainer	newsteam@amc.com
direction	read only
owner	owner-embedded-info@amc.com
archive	www.amc.com/
flow	Less than once per month

Embedded Update ML

About embedded systems and their tools

listserver	majordomo@softaid.com
body	subscribe embedded your_email_address
www	www.softaid.com/
organization	Softaid, Inc. (Vendor of emulators)
direction	read only
flow	Monthly (?)

interfacing ML

interfacing

subscribe	interfacing-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
unsubscribe	interfacing-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
group owner	interfacing-owner@yahoogroups.com
yahoo site	www.groups.yahoo.com/group/interfacing/

A newsgroup directed at interfacing electronics to your computer.
Includes discussion on

Games Ports

IrDA

Linux Drivers and Support

MIDI *
Parallel Ports
Serial Ports
Universal Serial Bus
Windows Device Drivers
etc.

OS/9 ML

[Still active?]

Operating system - 6809/68000/PowerPC oriented

listserver	listproc@it.pw.edu.pl
body	subscribe os9-L Your Real Name
owner	Adam Hajduk <aha@it.pw.edu.pl>
owner	os9-l-owner@it.pw.edu.pl
flow	Don't know yet.

Discussion about OS-9/OS-9000/OSK hardware and software.
OS-9 is a real-time, multiuser, multitasking operating system,
It can run on any hardware platform from simple diskless embedded control systems to large multiuser minicomputers.
For more info look at: www.cs.wisc.edu/~pruyne/os9faq.html

PCAD Users

Mailing list for the users of Accel's DOS/Unix basid PCAD PCB * design program.

See www.acceltech.com.

PCBuild - About building PC's and installing devices and drivers etc.

Not really an electronics oriented list but maybe useful.

subscribe	maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?SUBED1=pcbuild&A=1
WWW	nospin.com/
manager	Bob Wright <nospin@nospin.com>
manager	Drew Dunn <me@myself.com>
archive	maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/index.html
subscribers	1500
moderated	yes

PCI-SIG - PCI * special interest group

listserver	pci-all-request@znyx.com
subject	subscribe
organisation	ZNYX Corporation
maintainer	Jochen Roth <jochen@znyx.com>
maintainer	Alan Deikman <alan@znyx.com>
flow	Quite much, some time ago.

NB. You will be subscribed to three lists: binary, commercial, general

Profibus

I think this is some sort of interconnecting bus.

listserver	listserver@ade.no
subscribe	body: join profibus-list
unsubscribe	body: unjoin profibus-list
organisation	PROFIBUS International, AD Elektronikk AS
country	Norway
operator	wfs-operator@ade.no
maintainer	Michael Volz <michael_volz@compuserve.com>
WWW	www.profibus.com/
flow	little
archive	www.profibus.cz/ - click the 'archive' button

SeattleRobotics ML

Seattle Robotics Society's SeattleRobotics ML

subscribe	SeattleRobotics-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
unsubscribe	SeattleRobotics-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
group owner	SeattleRobotics-owner@yahoogroups.com
owner	Seattle Robotics Society
yahoo site	www.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/
other site	www.seattlerobotics.org

Subscribing manually to a mailing list

To change your status on a mailing list, send an email message to the list server.
(This is not the same email address where the postings go to!)

Leave the 'subject:'-field empty
Give one or more commands in the body, each on it's own line, for example:
- help
- subscribe _listname_ Your Real Name
- unsubscribe _listname_
Don't forget to disable your signature!

When you send 'help' as a command, the list server will generally send you a help file.
When you send 'info list-name' as a command, the list server will generally send you info about that mailing list.

General independent electronics news

www.theregister.co.uk/
fortnightly...written by three UK IT journalists
Mike Magee <ac70@cityscape.co.uk>
The Register from Situation Publishing

Starting up your own list

Sites where you can set-up a mailing list for free:

www.yahoogroups.com/	Yahoogroups (formerly www.egroups.com, www.makelist.com and www.onelist.com)
www.groups.yahoo.com/	Yahoogroups (formerly www.egroups.com, www.makelist.com and www.onelist.com)
www.smartgroups.com/	Smart Groups
www.delphiforums.com/	Delphi
lists.topica.com/	Topica

I have a couple of lists at Egroups, which was one of the first and they work very well.

Some background information

local	about email attachments
local	about email hoaxes

Lists of technical mailing lists/forums

www.industrycommunity.com/myforum/

list of industrial technical forums

Ad for PCI video capturing boards by Dektec.

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